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Date: Fri, 28 Jan 94 02:00:52 PST From: Info-Hams Mailing List and Newsgroup <info-hams@ucsd.edu> Errors-To: Info-Hams-Errors@UCSD.Edu Reply-To: Info-Hams@UCSD.Edu Precedence: Bulk Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #81 To: Info-Hams Info-Hams Digest Fri, 28 Jan 94 Volume 94 : Issue 81 Today's Topics: Help .. Yaesu 301S manual How to "Convert" Ham Radio HyperCard Stack? ORBS$028.MICRO.AMSAT ORBS$028.MISC.AMSAT ORBS$028.OSCAR.AMSAT ORBS$028.WEATH.AMSAT Power Line Interference SWR meters Send Replies or notes for publication to: <Info-Hams@UCSD.Edu> Send subscription requests to: <Info-Hams-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu> Problems you can't solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu. Archives of past issues of the Info-Hams Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives/info-hams". We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 26 Jan 1994 15:34:50 -0600 From: ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Help .. Yaesu 301S manual To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Help! Does anyone have a copy of the Yaesu 301S manual.. recently purchased one that needs to be realigned and don't have a manual. thanks Jeff ------------------------------ Date: 28 Jan 1994 01:43:42 GMT From: usc!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!slip-5-3.ots.utexas.edu!user@network.ucsd.edu Subject: How to "Convert" Ham Radio HyperCard Stack? To: info-hams@ucsd.edu > All you have to do is choose "Convert Stack" from the "File" menu. If > the "File" menu isn't visible, type the "Apple" key and the spacebar at > the same time to make it show. If you still have trouble, send me > E-mail and I'll help out. Thanks to Don and the other folks who told me that command-spacebar would allow me to access the menubar, and thereby Convert the stack. It worked! = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = _ Miles Abernathy, N5KOB = | |__ miles@mbs.telesys.utexas.edu = _| | POB 7580, Austin TX 78713 = \ * / University of Texas @ Austin = \/ tel. (512) 471-6521 U.S.A. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ------------------------------ Date: 28 Jan 94 05:04:00 GMT From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu Subject: ORBS$028.MICRO.AMSAT To: info-hams@ucsd.edu SB KEPS @ AMSAT $ORBS-028.D Orbital Elements 028.MICROS HR AMSAT ORBITAL ELEMENTS FOR THE MICROSATS FROM WA5QGD FORT WORTH,TX January 28, 1994 BID: $ORBS-028.D TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT Satellite: UO-14 Catalog number: 20437 Epoch time: 94023.72027674 Element set: 958 Inclination: 98.6014 deg RA of node: 110.4232 deg Eccentricity: 0.0010738 Arg of perigee: 258.1040 deg Mean anomaly: 101.8939 deg Mean motion: 14.29818845 rev/day Decay rate: 9.0e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 20894 Checksum: 300 Satellite: AO-16 Catalog number: 20439 Epoch time: 94023.71142341 Element set: 759 Inclination: 98.6085 deg RA of node: 111.4985 deg Eccentricity: 0.0010626 Arg of perigee: 257.4103 deg Mean anomaly: 102.5891 deg Mean motion: 14.29874323 rev/day Decay rate: 3.6e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 20895 Checksum: 302 Satellite: DO-17 Catalog number: 20440 Epoch time: 94023.19000664 Element set: 758 Inclination: 98.6093 deg RA of node: 111.2588 deg Eccentricity: 0.0010786 Arg of perigee: 258.6026 deg Mean anomaly: 101.3939 deg Mean motion: 14.30012183 rev/day Decay rate: 3.3e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 20889 Checksum: 287 Satellite: WO-18 Catalog number: 20441 Epoch time: 94023.72257873 Element set: 759 Inclination: 98.6090 deg RA of node: 111.7965 deg Eccentricity: 0.0011363 Arg of perigee: 257.4262 deg Mean anomaly: 102.5650 deg Mean motion: 14.29988660 rev/day Decay rate: 2.2e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 20897 Checksum: 317 Satellite: LO-19 Catalog number: 20442 Epoch time: 94023.78031134 Element set: 758 Inclination: 98.6095 deg RA of node: 112.0754 deg Eccentricity: 0.0011686 Arg of perigee: 257.0604 deg Mean anomaly: 102.9274 deg Mean motion: 14.30082457 rev/day Decay rate: 3.5e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 20899 Checksum: 296 Satellite: UO-22 Catalog number: 21575 Epoch time: 94022.73955110 Element set: 459 Inclination: 98.4491 deg RA of node: 100.0846 deg Eccentricity: 0.0008316 Arg of perigee: 9.2228 deg Mean anomaly: 350.9110 deg Mean motion: 14.36884103 rev/day Decay rate: 7.7e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 13219 Checksum: 283 Satellite: KO-23 Catalog number: 22077 Epoch time: 94023.85609254 Element set: 354 Inclination: 66.0869 deg RA of node: 222.1744 deg Eccentricity: 0.0008987 Arg of perigee: 324.6351 deg Mean anomaly: 35.4071 deg Mean motion: 12.86283752 rev/day Decay rate: -3.7e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 6822 Checksum: 309 Satellite: AO-27 Catalog number: 22825 Epoch time: 94024.20805866 Element set: 256 Inclination: 98.6679 deg RA of node: 101.3787 deg Eccentricity: 0.0008002 Arg of perigee: 272.5619 deg Mean anomaly: 87.4646 deg Mean motion: 14.27602782 rev/day Decay rate: 2.4e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 1714 Checksum: 313 Satellite: IO-26 Catalog number: 22826 Epoch time: 94024.19945571 Element set: 257 Inclination: 98.6696 deg RA of node: 101.3894 deg Eccentricity: 0.0008709 Arg of perigee: 274.0164 deg Mean anomaly: 86.0022 deg Mean motion: 14.27705052 rev/day Decay rate: 1.4e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 1714 Checksum: 300 Satellite: KO-25 Catalog number: 22830 Epoch time: 94023.12145410 Element set: 258 Inclination: 98.5680 deg RA of node: 99.1055 deg Eccentricity: 0.0010832 Arg of perigee: 241.2500 deg Mean anomaly: 118.7594 deg Mean motion: 14.28028626 rev/day Decay rate: 3.2e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 1699 Checksum: 281 /EX ------------------------------ Date: 28 Jan 94 05:08:00 GMT From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu Subject: ORBS$028.MISC.AMSAT To: info-hams@ucsd.edu SB KEPS @ AMSAT $ORBS-028.M Orbital Elements 028.MISC HR AMSAT ORBITAL ELEMENTS FOR MANNED AND MISCELLANEOUS SATELLITES FROM WA5QGD FORT WORTH,TX January 28, 1994 BID: $ORBS-028.M TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT Satellite: MIR Catalog number: 16609 Epoch time: 94024.89373306 Element set: 113 Inclination: 51.6149 deg RA of node: 185.5066 deg Eccentricity: 0.0004274 Arg of perigee: 238.4510 deg Mean anomaly: 121.6066 deg Mean motion: 15.59707808 rev/day Decay rate: 3.418e-05 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 45369 Checksum: 305 Satellite: HUBBLE Catalog number: 20580 Epoch time: 94022.24851824 Element set: 430 Inclination: 28.4686 deg RA of node: 93.3100 deg Eccentricity: 0.0006047 Arg of perigee: 4.5503 deg Mean anomaly: 355.5137 deg Mean motion: 14.90434303 rev/day Decay rate: 8.56e-06 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 759 Checksum: 266 Satellite: GRO Catalog number: 21225 Epoch time: 94021.73753211 Element set: 57 Inclination: 28.4607 deg RA of node: 168.1175 deg Eccentricity: 0.0003410 Arg of perigee: 4.1032 deg Mean anomaly: 355.9593 deg Mean motion: 15.39868197 rev/day Decay rate: 3.487e-05 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 3433 Checksum: 282 Satellite: UARS Catalog number: 21701 Epoch time: 94022.08009544 Element set: 466 Inclination: 56.9837 deg RA of node: 24.5158 deg Eccentricity: 0.0005011 Arg of perigee: 99.9306 deg Mean anomaly: 260.2285 deg Mean motion: 14.96313760 rev/day Decay rate: -1.61e-06 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 12906 Checksum: 281 Satellite: POSAT Catalog number: 22829 Epoch time: 94024.17496986 Element set: 249 Inclination: 98.6636 deg RA of node: 101.3681 deg Eccentricity: 0.0009514 Arg of perigee: 260.3974 deg Mean anomaly: 99.6130 deg Mean motion: 14.27999725 rev/day Decay rate: 1.12e-06 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 1714 Checksum: 324 /EX ------------------------------ Date: 28 Jan 94 05:02:00 GMT From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu Subject: ORBS$028.OSCAR.AMSAT To: info-hams@ucsd.edu SB KEPS @ AMSAT $ORBS-028.O Orbital Elements 028.OSCAR HR AMSAT ORBITAL ELEMENTS FOR OSCAR SATELLITES FROM WA5QGD FORT WORTH,TX January 28, 1994 BID: $ORBS-028.O TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT Satellite: AO-10 Catalog number: 14129 Epoch time: 94024.05103246 Element set: 255 Inclination: 27.1974 deg RA of node: 345.0665 deg Eccentricity: 0.6022479 Arg of perigee: 148.8987 deg Mean anomaly: 267.9531 deg Mean motion: 2.05878528 rev/day Decay rate: -1.57e-06 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 7981 Checksum: 331 Satellite: UO-11 Catalog number: 14781 Epoch time: 94022.54990237 Element set: 659 Inclination: 97.7943 deg RA of node: 44.0471 deg Eccentricity: 0.0012732 Arg of perigee: 20.1247 deg Mean anomaly: 340.0459 deg Mean motion: 14.69126429 rev/day Decay rate: 2.20e-06 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 52892 Checksum: 298 Satellite: RS-10/11 Catalog number: 18129 Epoch time: 94024.51112470 Element set: 856 Inclination: 82.9229 deg RA of node: 75.0490 deg Eccentricity: 0.0013261 Arg of perigee: 65.1117 deg Mean anomaly: 295.1421 deg Mean motion: 13.72330004 rev/day Decay rate: 2.9e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 33020 Checksum: 251 Satellite: AO-13 Catalog number: 19216 Epoch time: 94024.72776868 Element set: 868 Inclination: 57.8659 deg RA of node: 271.7520 deg Eccentricity: 0.7209858 Arg of perigee: 333.3841 deg Mean anomaly: 3.3067 deg Mean motion: 2.09727795 rev/day Decay rate: -4.74e-06 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 4300 Checksum: 343 Satellite: FO-20 Catalog number: 20480 Epoch time: 94022.02498298 Element set: 653 Inclination: 99.0150 deg RA of node: 201.5769 deg Eccentricity: 0.0540715 Arg of perigee: 310.7310 deg Mean anomaly: 44.8065 deg Mean motion: 12.83224067 rev/day Decay rate: 3.2e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 18538 Checksum: 283 Satellite: AO-21 Catalog number: 21087 Epoch time: 94022.59338267 Element set: 418 Inclination: 82.9419 deg RA of node: 250.4473 deg Eccentricity: 0.0036137 Arg of perigee: 127.9378 deg Mean anomaly: 232.5054 deg Mean motion: 13.74532122 rev/day Decay rate: 9.4e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 14958 Checksum: 311 Satellite: RS-12/13 Catalog number: 21089 Epoch time: 94023.25486395 Element set: 657 Inclination: 82.9234 deg RA of node: 118.9396 deg Eccentricity: 0.0029748 Arg of perigee: 149.4078 deg Mean anomaly: 210.8818 deg Mean motion: 13.74034012 rev/day Decay rate: 6.9e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 14874 Checksum: 336 /EX ------------------------------ Date: 28 Jan 94 05:06:00 GMT From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu Subject: ORBS$028.WEATH.AMSAT To: info-hams@ucsd.edu SB KEPS @ AMSAT $ORBS-028.W Orbital Elements 028.WEATHER HR AMSAT ORBITAL ELEMENTS FOR WEATHER SATELLITES FROM WA5QGD FORT WORTH,TX January 28, 1994 BID: $ORBS-028.W TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT Satellite: NOAA-9 Catalog number: 15427 Epoch time: 94024.84111918 Element set: 690 Inclination: 99.0714 deg RA of node: 73.5136 deg Eccentricity: 0.0014254 Arg of perigee: 265.0534 deg Mean anomaly: 94.9011 deg Mean motion: 14.13582049 rev/day Decay rate: 6.6e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 47009 Checksum: 295 Satellite: NOAA-10 Catalog number: 16969 Epoch time: 94024.90557717 Element set: 589 Inclination: 98.5115 deg RA of node: 38.2683 deg Eccentricity: 0.0014216 Arg of perigee: 30.0469 deg Mean anomaly: 330.1524 deg Mean motion: 14.24859195 rev/day Decay rate: 4.6e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 38220 Checksum: 311 Satellite: MET-2/17 Catalog number: 18820 Epoch time: 94023.43390413 Element set: 256 Inclination: 82.5388 deg RA of node: 23.7309 deg Eccentricity: 0.0015197 Arg of perigee: 225.1306 deg Mean anomaly: 134.8627 deg Mean motion: 13.84705138 rev/day Decay rate: 3.0e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 30232 Checksum: 282 Satellite: MET-3/2 Catalog number: 19336 Epoch time: 94022.60025047 Element set: 258 Inclination: 82.5388 deg RA of node: 66.7138 deg Eccentricity: 0.0015665 Arg of perigee: 267.7785 deg Mean anomaly: 92.1551 deg Mean motion: 13.16963643 rev/day Decay rate: 5.1e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 26409 Checksum: 316 Satellite: NOAA-11 Catalog number: 19531 Epoch time: 94024.88940835 Element set: 493 Inclination: 99.1591 deg RA of node: 10.3872 deg Eccentricity: 0.0011598 Arg of perigee: 172.3595 deg Mean anomaly: 187.7754 deg Mean motion: 14.12952794 rev/day Decay rate: 1.09e-06 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 27498 Checksum: 345 Satellite: MET-2/18 Catalog number: 19851 Epoch time: 94023.59752591 Element set: 257 Inclination: 82.5221 deg RA of node: 259.1929 deg Eccentricity: 0.0013085 Arg of perigee: 276.2886 deg Mean anomaly: 83.6783 deg Mean motion: 13.84355919 rev/day Decay rate: 6.0e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 24768 Checksum: 350 Satellite: MET-3/3 Catalog number: 20305 Epoch time: 94025.10426049 Element set: 975 Inclination: 82.5515 deg RA of node: 8.9014 deg Eccentricity: 0.0005987 Arg of perigee: 291.9052 deg Mean anomaly: 68.1464 deg Mean motion: 13.04413358 rev/day Decay rate: 4.4e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 20424 Checksum: 280 Satellite: MET-2/19 Catalog number: 20670 Epoch time: 94023.30001472 Element set: 758 Inclination: 82.5480 deg RA of node: 323.5522 deg Eccentricity: 0.0014995 Arg of perigee: 189.5054 deg Mean anomaly: 170.5826 deg Mean motion: 13.84186867 rev/day Decay rate: 2.4e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 18057 Checksum: 310 Satellite: FY-1/2 Catalog number: 20788 Epoch time: 94025.10148604 Element set: 877 Inclination: 98.8447 deg RA of node: 49.7771 deg Eccentricity: 0.0015332 Arg of perigee: 50.8207 deg Mean anomaly: 309.4318 deg Mean motion: 14.01330340 rev/day Decay rate: -2.61e-06 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 17366 Checksum: 295 Satellite: MET-2/20 Catalog number: 20826 Epoch time: 94023.60305417 Element set: 757 Inclination: 82.5264 deg RA of node: 261.0126 deg Eccentricity: 0.0014611 Arg of perigee: 90.7607 deg Mean anomaly: 269.5239 deg Mean motion: 13.83571525 rev/day Decay rate: 8.6e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 16776 Checksum: 300 Satellite: MET-3/4 Catalog number: 21232 Epoch time: 94021.18358038 Element set: 665 Inclination: 82.5452 deg RA of node: 273.5216 deg Eccentricity: 0.0012567 Arg of perigee: 190.0068 deg Mean anomaly: 170.0806 deg Mean motion: 13.16458840 rev/day Decay rate: 5.0e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 13201 Checksum: 268 Satellite: NOAA-12 Catalog number: 21263 Epoch time: 94024.83275922 Element set: 899 Inclination: 98.6348 deg RA of node: 55.6700 deg Eccentricity: 0.0012386 Arg of perigee: 295.2559 deg Mean anomaly: 64.7335 deg Mean motion: 14.22359980 rev/day Decay rate: 1.03e-06 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 14015 Checksum: 314 Satellite: MET-3/5 Catalog number: 21655 Epoch time: 94022.55531684 Element set: 661 Inclination: 82.5514 deg RA of node: 219.5787 deg Eccentricity: 0.0012818 Arg of perigee: 199.5298 deg Mean anomaly: 160.5334 deg Mean motion: 13.16827463 rev/day Decay rate: 5.1e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 11729 Checksum: 321 Satellite: MET-2/21 Catalog number: 22782 Epoch time: 94023.09460165 Element set: 257 Inclination: 82.5520 deg RA of node: 321.4145 deg Eccentricity: 0.0021234 Arg of perigee: 275.1244 deg Mean anomaly: 84.7497 deg Mean motion: 13.82997383 rev/day Decay rate: 5.4e-07 rev/day^2 Epoch rev: 2003 Checksum: 285 /EX ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 17:15:02 GMT From: mvb.saic.com!unogate!news.service.uci.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!csn!server!stortek.com!patrick_tatro@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Power Line Interference To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In article <1994Jan25.140537.16951@ccd.harris.com> drs@ccd.harris.com (Doug Snowden) writes: >From: drs@ccd.harris.com (Doug Snowden) >Subject: Power Line Interference >Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 14:05:37 GMT >For the past 3 years I have been trying to track down some noise that appears >to be coming from the power lines. I have walked around with a portable radio, >driven around (for miles in all directions) in my car seeking the source. The >source seems to come from one of the two power poles across the street from me. > This noise tends to show up in the Winter time or on cool or rainy >Summer days. In the Summer time I might have the noise on a day that remains >cloudy (therefore cooler). In the Winter time the noise also tends to also >show up mostly (but not always) at night time when it is cooler. We are talking >about Florida, so in the Winter time it doesnt normally get that cold. Now here >is the weird part: The noise has a cyclic period of about 1.5 seconds on and >1.5 seconds off. This part doesn't vary. If I have the noise, it has this >period. Now there are no capacitors on the power poles around me. The pole that >I suspect has a transformer on it. Can a transformer do this? How? Is there >some sort of capacitor or protection circuit on these xfmrs that can do this? > Normally, I cannot determine the source (this changes). My 20 meter >beam seems to tell me which pole the noise comes from, but if I walk up to >the pole, with a portable radio I normally am not able to zero in on it. >I have called the power company in the past to repair a problem which I was >able to point them to. I am reluctant to call them on this one, even though >it tears up all from 1500 khz to 21 mhz. I have heard that this sort of >interference can originate miles away and be picked up by the power lines at >some distant point (my house). I imagine I'll call the power company for >resolution, but would like any input I can get before I do it. Please don't >tell me to go beat on the pole! >-- >Doug Snowden >drs@ccd.harris.com >N4IJ Doug We have Ham Radio Elmers on Internet who might be able to help you. Kim Elmore N5OP can be reached at elmore@brightband.rap.ucar.edu Kims experience with RFI and EMI might be what you need. Give him an EMAIL and see. 73's Patrick Tatro N0WCG ------------------------------ Date: 24 Jan 94 18:23:59 GMT From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!sgiblab!sgigate.sgi.com!olivea!koriel!news2me.EBay.Sun.COM!cronkite.Central.Sun.COM!webrider!doc@ucbvax.berkeley.edu Subject: SWR meters To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Greetings - I'm curious as to my options on getting an SWR meter. I've naturally heard much about the Bird meter, but that's a pretty expensive choice. I'm interested in feedback on other, less expensive models. My usage would be primarily for 50 watts or less and 2m/440, although I do have plans for getting an HF rig in the reasonably near future. Naturally I looking at the price/performance ratios. I'm definitely looking for accuracy, but am unwilling to pay several hundred dollars more if the difference is vanishingly small. Many thanks for any insights, 73 Steve --- -- -- Steve Bunis, Sun Microsystems ***DoD #0795*** 93-ST1100 -- Itasca, IL ***AMA #682049*** -- ***HRCA #HM125617** -- *** N9VLP *** ------------------------------ Date: 25 Jan 1994 19:36:08 -0500 From: news.sprintlink.net!news.dorsai.org!news.dorsai.org!not-for-mail@uunet.uu.net To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <rec.radio.info-ham.radio.ftp_758962491@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca>, <1994Jan24.190117.4386@ncsu.edu>, <CK5w6v.1Ey@ucdavis.edu> Subject : Re: WWCR 5.810MHZ 8pm 12pm Eastern(CHECK IT OUT!!) In article <CK5w6v.1Ey@ucdavis.edu>, Daniel D. Todd wrote: > aghoddo@eos.ncsu.edu wrote: > > : I thought some of you might be interested to check out a very interesting > : program called the Hour of the Time by William Cooper on WWCR(world wide > : christian radio). There are two programs nightly at 8pm and 12pm. Enjoy! > > Please post this to rec.radio.amateur.pulpit.religion The show is anything but religion, you see WWCR also means World Wide Conspiricy Radio. Anyone want to take a vote on starting an alt.radio.conspiricy newsgroup for WWCR listeners? C'mon all you Tom Valentine and Pastor Pete fans, this is for you. < ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^> < "Big Steve" Coletti > < Shortwave Listener, Broadcaster, Computer Consultant > < and all around nice guy > < Internet: bigsteve@dorsai.dorsai.org ==== S.COLETTI2@genie.geis.com > < UUCP: Steve_Cole@islenet.com ==== steveny@lopez.marquette.mi.us > < Fidonet: 1:278/712 US Mail: P.O. Box 396, New York, NY 10002 > < Voice: +1 212 995-2637 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 94 17:21:47 GMT From: butch!rapnet!news@uunet.uu.net To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <60.668.5285.0N191767@canrem.com>, <CK45ys.9II@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca>, <2i53kj$56k@helios.intranet.gr>edu Subject : Re: Illegal Activities of Dominique Cormann (Re: CB/HAM equipment) In article <2i53kj$56k@helios.intranet.gr> demetre@phaethon.intranet.gr (Demetre Koumanakos) writes: >Path: rapnet!butch!netcomsv!decwrl!concert!news-feed-1.peachnet.edu!ukma!eng.ufl.edu!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!news.forth.gr!helios.intranet.gr!phaethon!demetre >From: demetre@phaethon.intranet.gr (Demetre Koumanakos) >Newsgroups: can.forsale,rec.radio.amateur.misc >Subject: Re: Illegal Activities of Dominique Cormann (Re: CB/HAM equipment) >Date: 26 Jan 1994 06:46:43 GMT >Organization: Intracom sa >Lines: 22 >Distribution: na >Message-ID: <2i53kj$56k@helios.intranet.gr> >References: <60.668.5285.0N191767@canrem.com> <CK45ys.9II@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca> >NNTP-Posting-Host: phaethon.intranet.gr >>The reason I am selling this, is that I am getting my HAM license soon, and >>am starting to look for a 2 meter radio. I will also trade the above setup, >>for a good 2 meter setup, make me an offer. >Not if I can help it. I will use any influence I have left as the Former >Public Service Director of the Northern Alberta Radio Club, and any avenues >of information transfer, such as the Packet Radio system, to ensure that people >of your kind are carefully scrutinized. This will not prevent you receiving >your ticket, but it may make you very uncomfortable when your past catches up >with you. >I was shocked from this message !! I always thought that Amateur Radio >was created and is still popular due to it's promotion of friendship !! >So what if the man was a "pirate", what matters *now* is the fact that >he is going straight !!! If he seems to be sincere about his "turn around" >he should be given the chance to do so !!! >Every possible effort must be made to reform the radio pirates with the >real *amateur" way, not with threats and vengence like you have done !! >73's Right on Demetre, an Elmer this guy will never be with that attitude! 73 === |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | Joel B. Chappell - KC1SG Lockheed Sanders | | Principal Engineer Nashua, NH 03061 | | | | -= Standard Disclaimer: All opinions are mine. =- | | | | jchappel@rapnet.sanders.lockheed.com | | Fido: 1:132/204.1 | | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 94 21:43:24 GMT From: butch!rapnet!news@uunet.uu.net To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <CK45ys.9II@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca>, <2i53kj$56k@helios.intranet.gr>, <2i5vta$tt@explorer.clark.net> Subject : Re: Illegal Activities of Dominique Cormann (Re: CB/HAM equipment) In article <2i5vta$tt@explorer.clark.net> robocop@clark.net (matt roberts) writes: >Path: rapnet!butch!netcomsv!decwrl!olivea!sgigate.sgi.com!sgiblab!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!paladin.american.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!uunet!news.sprintlink.net!news.clark.net!news.clark.net!not-for-mail >From: robocop@clark.net (matt roberts) >Newsgroups: can.forsale,rec.radio.amateur.misc >Subject: Re: Illegal Activities of Dominique Cormann (Re: CB/HAM equipment) >Date: 26 Jan 1994 09:49:14 -0500 >Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc., Ellicott City, MD USA >Lines: 31 >Distribution: na >Message-ID: <2i5vta$tt@explorer.clark.net> >References: <60.668.5285.0N191767@canrem.com> <CK45ys.9II@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca> <2i53kj$56k@helios.intranet.gr> >NNTP-Posting-Host: explorer.clark.net >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >In article <2i53kj$56k@helios.intranet.gr>, >Demetre Koumanakos <demetre@phaethon.intranet.gr> wrote: >>>The reason I am selling this, is that I am getting my HAM license soon, and >>>am starting to look for a 2 meter radio. I will also trade the above setup, >>>for a good 2 meter setup, make me an offer. >> >>Not if I can help it. I will use any influence I have left as the Former >>Public Service Director of the Northern Alberta Radio Club, and any avenues >>of information transfer, such as the Packet Radio system, to ensure that people >>of your kind are carefully scrutinized. This will not prevent you receiving >>your ticket, but it may make you very uncomfortable when your past catches up >>with you. >> >>I was shocked from this message !! I always thought that Amateur Radio >>was created and is still popular due to it's promotion of friendship !! >>So what if the man was a "pirate", what matters *now* is the fact that >>he is going straight !!! If he seems to be sincere about his "turn around" >>he should be given the chance to do so !!! >>Every possible effort must be made to reform the radio pirates with the >>real *amateur" way, not with threats and vengence like you have done !! >If he was in this country, and the FCC caught him, he would get in very >serious trouble. If we allow this sort of thing to thing to persist, >we'll have a service that will be unusable. How do we know this person >will stay straight, we don't. > Matt Roberts n3gzm One listen on 14.313 Matt will show you that one's background has nothing to do with how good an operator or ham he will be. Listen during some of the DX pile-ups, the majority of the guys that transmit out of band, because they forget how to run the "split" on their transceiver, have 2by1 callsigns. I know of a number of hams that got their start on CB radio, and are good hams and legal operators, even though their early days in radio were not too savory. What Demetre and I ahve been trying to say is, give the guy a break, he may change and be a perfectly fine ham if someone were to extend the right hand of fellowship to him and get him squared away. The problem is that some guys get too vindictive, and and get their Jr. FCC hat on, and can't see the forest for the trees. 73 === |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | Joel B. Chappell - KC1SG Lockheed Sanders | | Principal Engineer Nashua, NH 03061 | | | | -= Standard Disclaimer: All opinions are mine. =- | | | | jchappel@rapnet.sanders.lockheed.com | | Fido: 1:132/204.1 | | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ End of Info-Hams Digest V94 #81 ****************************** ******************************